October 26th, 2009 • 8:56 amIf This Is True…

If this WSJ article is right, Democrats are opening themselves up for a huge new flood of well-deserved criticism. They’re also heading for a constitutional challenge. Here’s what the WSJ is reporting:

Top Senate Democrats are close to finalizing their health bill and could unveil a measure as soon as early this week that would include stiffer penalties on employers who fail to provide health coverage.

Senate leaders plan to submit the bill to the Congressional Budget Office for a cost estimate as soon as Monday, and make the legislation public as soon as Tuesday, according to a person familiar with the negotiations.

The CBO score is partially predictable in that this mandate won’t add to the federal deficit. Still, the bill won’t be effective because it’s still cheaper to pay a $750 fine than buy health insurance for employees.

Most importantly, Democrats still haven’t explained how their legislation will make health care less expensive. They won’t talk about that because they can’t explain it. That’s because their plan doesn’t make health care less expensive. I wrote here that “the Democrats’ legislation will make things worse for the vast majority of people.” We’re mired in a deep recession and the Democrats are proposing to raise small businesses’ operating cost one way or the other. How stupid is that?

I don’t know of a thoughtful economist who thinks that adding to small business’s expenses during a deep recession is a good way of creating jobs. I’m betting that King could rattle off a long list of economists that think the best way to create jobs that pull us out of this recession is to decrease small businesses’ expenses.

Mr. Reid spent the weekend shoring up support for the bill from Democrats in the chamber. But some key moderate Democrats signaled Sunday that they remain uneasy about main planks of the legislation. “I certainly am not excited about a public option where states would opt out,” Sen. Ben Nelson (D., Neb.) said on CNN’s “State of the Union.”

I haven’t seen a statement by Evan Bayh but I’m betting that he won’t support the Democrats’ plan. Another senator sure to influence the debate is Mary Landrieu. Here’s what she recently said:

Health care reform is necessary to drive down costs for consumers and businesses, but it must not be allowed to increase the federal debt, Landrieu said. Moderates in Congress have succeeded in making that principle a priority, she said.

She said she backs more tax credits for small businesses and wants to let small businesses pool together to buy insurance. She opposes plans to require employers to pay for coverage. She also wants to make sure reform legislation gives states more flexibility in making their own health care changes. “We cannot fall into this same old same old one-size-fits all” approach, she said.

That certainly puts her opposite this emerging proposal. Sen. Landrieu hasn’t had a high profile thus far in the health care debate but that’s about to change. As chairlady of the Small Business and Entrepreneurship Committee, she’ll be asked by small businesses to stand up for them. Her opposition will give other moderates the political cover they need to oppose Reid’s bill.

As usual, Ed nails the Democrats’ problems with this post:

Typically, businesses could pay more than $750 per month for some health insurance plans for each employee. The cheap fine allows businesses to opt out altogether at a very low cost, forcing employees into the public option.

Also, this looks like a bribe of sorts to keep employers out of court. An employer mandate may have similar constitutional problems as an individual mandate, at least for those employers whose business does not cross state lines. However, businesses can afford to hire more and better lawyers than individuals in order to challenge it. If they see this as a cheap mechanism to dump medical coverage costs, we can expect them to cheer it rather than sue and put the whole scheme in jeopardy of a Supreme Court reversal.

However, the optics of this look bad, and will look worse in practice. The Senate will create a huge out for the business world at the expense of the individual workers, and when they take it, people will realize they’ve been had, especially the class warriors that comprise the narrowing base of the Democrats. The only people stuck with an onerous mandate will be individuals, forced for the first time in American history to purchase a product in order to legally reside in the US.

When we look back at the path health care legislation took, we’ll realize that this is just another attempt by Democrats to force single-payer down our throats. The bad news for Democrats is that bloggers like Ed and myself will be there next November to remind voters that the Democrats wanted to stick small businesses and individuals with additional expenses when they could least afford it. (Let me know how that works out for you, Democrats.)

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Cross-posted at California Conservative

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  1. It seems to me that all of your arguments stem from your conservative ideology, which is fine for rallying the base but it’s not going to change anyone’s mind. They’re good for rallying the base but I just don’t think they are objective enough to win over moderates.

    So the thought of having you around to “remind” us in November doesn’t really worry me. Most non-Republicans agree that something needs to be done and most non-Republicans agree that the Republicans are doing nothing.

    Comment by apathyboy • 26Oct2009 @ 9:49 am

  2. It seems to me that all of your arguments stem from your conservative ideology, which is fine for rallying the base but it’s not going to change anyone’s mind.

    Mary Landrieu, Evan Bayh & Ben Nelson oppose the Democrats’ ‘public option’ but I’m talking solely to the conservative base? Please tell me you aren’t that foolish.

    I offered a common sense plan that keeps government intervention to a minimum, something that’s supported by a 3:1 margin (56%-19%) but I’m only playing to the base?

    You’d better do better homework before peddling that crap around here.

    Comment by Gary Gross • 26Oct2009 @ 10:18 am

  3. I’m not that foolish. There are plenty of valid and objective arguments against the Dem’s health care plan. I just don’t think that you’re is one of them.

    [You're comment got cut off at "common sense plan" so maybe I'm missing something.]

    Perhaps I’m reading too much into your argument but you seem to be saying that the Dem’s health care is a bad idea because it will lead to a single payer system, which I think is unfounded. You also seem to imply that the Democrats are intentionally causing a single payer system which is ridiculous. Am I off base here, or is that the gist of your argument?

    Comment by apathyboy • 26Oct2009 @ 12:18 pm

  4. “I offered a common sense plan that keeps government intervention to a minimum, something that’s supported by a 3:1 margin (56%-19%) but I’m only playing to the base?”

    By 3:1 margin I assume you’re referring to your 2/8/09 post that says “people prefer tax cuts over spending increases by close to a 3:1 margin” (your post does not cite a source for this item). If this is the case then you are assuming that anyone who prefers tax cuts to spending increases is going to support your plan (whatever that happens to be).

    I’m sure if you polled a bunch of 5 year-olds they’d prefer eating pizza everyday over eating vegetables every day by a margin of 3:1.

    Comment by apathyboy • 26Oct2009 @ 1:06 pm

  5. I don’t think Constitutionality is a big concern for Democrats, in the first place, and I don’t credit them with the thinking ability to worry about challenges. The belief that this is some sort of strategy of theirs to get to single-payer gives them far too much credit for intelligence. They are dreamers, believing that everything they will to happen can magically flow from any legislation they can pass. Beyond that, it’s all political gamesmanship to get the votes. What is actually in the legislation doesn’t matter. That’s where they must be challenged, by convincing them that they will lose their hold on power by pursuing this. They’ll drop it like a hot rock.

    Comment by J. Ewing • 26Oct2009 @ 2:57 pm

  6. Perhaps I’m reading too much into your argument but you seem to be saying that the Dem’s health care is a bad idea because it will lead to a single payer system, which I think is unfounded.

    Oh really??? View the video in this post & tell me that my worries are unfounded.

    By 3:1 margin I assume you’re referring to your 2/8/09 post that says “people prefer tax cuts over spending increases by close to a 3:1 margin” (your post does not cite a source for this item).

    Actually, I was referring to this morning’s Rasmussen polling that said the American people believed additional government intervention in the health care process would make it worse.

    Comment by Gary Gross • 26Oct2009 @ 3:25 pm

  7. I watched the video. Your worries are unfounded.

    The video has a six year old quote from Obama saying he is in favor of a single payer system. It has a clip from a more recent town hall meeting in which he says he will not push for a single payer system yet somehow neglects to include that. The rest of the video is a series of people that have absolutly no legislative power whatsoever saying they support a single payer system.

    This video was edited by people who oppose the public option with the intent of convicing people who are in favor of the public option but opposed to a single payer system to oppose the public option. It is intentionally and maliciously deceptive.

    Comment by apathyboy • 27Oct2009 @ 6:54 am

  8. Only an idiot could watch that video & see a legislator who worked on the health care legislation say her goal was to drive health insurance out of business say that my fears are unfounded.

    As for President Obama’s 2003 quote, that’s a flimsy argument because he repeated that position in a December, 2007 debate. That sounds like a pretty consistent position, far more consistent than the litany of broken campaign promises he’s made.

    Your arguments aren’t persuasive because your logic is fatally flawed.

    Comment by Gary Gross • 27Oct2009 @ 7:34 am

  9. “As for President Obama’s 2003 quote, that’s a flimsy argument because he repeated that position in a December, 2007 debate. ”

    No, he didn’t. If you want his official position, go to his website:
    http://www.barackobama.com/factcheck/2008/01/05/fact_check_obama_consistent_in.php

    [his claim of "consistency" is b.s. on his part, but the point is he'd never support a single-payer bill.]

    I’m not selling anything here (check out my blog for that). But I’m not buying anything either. I am making observations about your arguments, which are not logically sound. Disagree? You give me your major premise and minor premises and if I can’t tell you exactly where your logic is invalid I will acquiesce.

    Comment by apathyboy • 27Oct2009 @ 9:01 am

  10. I don’t want his official position. They’re as worthless as a nuclear nonproliferation treaty with Iran. The secret with understanding President Obama is to see what he says when he thinks he isn’t being taped. What he says in public is usually 180 degrees opposite of what he believes.

    Did you even bother watching him say that he’s a strong advocate for single-payer or that he didn’t think they could get there right away? Didn’t that mean anything to you? Is it that you’ll just believe whatever you’d like to believe?

    Comment by Gary Gross • 27Oct2009 @ 9:12 am

  11. Here’s what it means to me: Obama advocates a single-payer system but recognizes it’s not right for America right now. He hopes we’ll have one 10, 15 years down the road but would never push it himself. No issue.

    Major premise, minor premise. Let’s have it.

    Comment by apathyboy • 27Oct2009 @ 9:39 am

  12. How does the public option work? Does the government pick which insurance policies are available to your family? What kinds of mandates does the public option include? Will the government set things up to run the insurance companies out of business so they can take over the heatlh insurance industry within 5 years?

    Based on the mandates in HR 3200 & in the Senate Finance Committee bill, I can confidently state that they’re set so high that they don’t allow private insurance companies compete.

    The so-called public option is set up to push insurance companies off a cliff. It’s nothing more complicated than that.

    Comment by Gary Gross • 27Oct2009 @ 10:27 am

  13. If you don’t know what mandates the public option will include you can’t state with any confidence that these mandates are set too high.

    The public option is set up to reduce insurance costs without pushing the private insurance companies out of business. It’s actually pretty complicated, but that’s the gist of it.

    Comment by apathyboy • 27Oct2009 @ 10:55 am

  14. So many people say “public option” and that’s a very, very elastic thing meaning different things to different people.

    What does it mean to Harry Reid?

    I think only Reid knows, and I suspect it changes for him from day to day as he glides and slides.

    What we end up stuck with might be chopped liver.

    It takes more trust in more people than I have, to buy into anything said at this time.

    Conference committee time, there may be the same waffling and weaseling. They are all politicians after all, not responsible people.

    Comment by eric z. • 29Oct2009 @ 7:14 pm





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